I want to break your heart

Jay (not that one) · Post by **Jay (not that one)** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:22 am

The first time I saw Jay Bennett I thought he was kind of noodly. Maybe I was just threatened by him.

Hoops · Post by **Hoops** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:54 am

Bennett's Wilco > Tweedy's Wilco.

anadyne2112 · Post by **anadyne2112** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:36 am

Yeah, SG, it's not your typical documentary. I thought it was interesting though.

sturgeongeneral · Post by **sturgeongeneral** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:06 am

buy me a video camera so iI can make a movie called "i am trying to bore you to death."

—ryan adams on wilco's i am trying to break your heart

not that i necessarily agree.

dcarter · Post by **dcarter** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:32 am

I agree anadyne about JB being obsessive. Which is why he was destined to be fired.

gdavis5446 · Post by **gdavis5446** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:31 am

dcarter wrote:
gdavis5446 wrote:Jay Bennett is a fantastic guitar player and has a great ear for pop- arrangements. I really miss his presence in Wilco. Being There and Summerteeth are probably my two favorite Wilco records. I'm sure Jeff Tweedy would admit Jay''s contributions to both these records was quite important. Also, I think you can say the same for the Mermaid Ave records. I've really enjoyed his solo albums the past few years, especially Bigger Than Blue and the Palace At 4AM.

Finally, I will say this before Doug does; the movie is called I Am Trying To Break Your Heart.
Well put, Greg and I agree with everything said above (except for missing JB in Wilco. I definitely loved the Bennett era but I think the band has gone forward. It would have been cool if JB could have stayed and took a lesser role but that wasn't going to happen). Pick up the Palace ... and Bigger than Blue.

I was wondering what this thread was about! Who's heart and why?

I hear you. I miss him, but understand why he's gone. I doubt they'd be able to function as a group these days.

anadyne2112 · Post by **anadyne2112** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:30 am

My bad

Must have gotten I am trying to... and I wanna destroy you confused, which is easy at my age

I'll say it yet again, there are examples of Bennett I'm unaware of. He did seem like a control freak

dcarter · Post by **dcarter** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:12 am

gdavis5446 wrote:Jay Bennett is a fantastic guitar player and has a great ear for pop- arrangements. I really miss his presence in Wilco. Being There and Summerteeth are probably my two favorite Wilco records. I'm sure Jeff Tweedy would admit Jay''s contributions to both these records was quite important. Also, I think you can say the same for the Mermaid Ave records. I've really enjoyed his solo albums the past few years, especially Bigger Than Blue and the Palace At 4AM.

Finally, I will say this before Doug does; the movie is called I Am Trying To Break Your Heart.

Well put, Greg and I agree with everything said above (except for missing JB in Wilco. I definitely loved the Bennett era but I think the band has gone forward. It would have been cool if JB could have stayed and took a lesser role but that wasn't going to happen). Pick up the Palace ... and Bigger than Blue.

I was wondering what this thread was about! Who's heart and why?

gdavis5446 · Post by **gdavis5446** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:29 am

Jay Bennett is a fantastic guitar player and has a great ear for pop- arrangements. I really miss his presence in Wilco. Being There and Summerteeth are probably my two favorite Wilco records. I'm sure Jeff Tweedy would admit Jay''s contributions to both these records was quite important. Also, I think you can say the same for the Mermaid Ave records. I've really enjoyed his solo albums the past few years, especially Bigger Than Blue and the Palace At 4AM.

Finally, I will say this before Doug does; the movie is called I Am Trying To Break Your Heart.

danmen · Post by **danmen** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:41 am

Do yourself a favor, and rent (or borrow or buy) "Sunken Treaure" - Jeff Tweedy Live in the Pacific Northwest on DVD.
You will not be disappointed.
Plus, if you pop the DVD into your DVD equipped PC, you can get the entire show as individual MP3's as a bonus feature of the DVD for no charge.

anadyne2112 · Post by **anadyne2112** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:46 pm

You may very well be right, Mr. Spencer. I will freely admit that I have limited knowledge of his playing. I will take you at your word that there are examples I am unaware of.

Having said that, whoever the guitarist is on Impossible Germany is really good. Again, he's not playing a super locrian at 2,000 notes per second, he is serving the song. And it is really cool.

Maybe in my first 20 years of playing and teaching, I was more impressed with technique. I can now appreciate those who add color and texture to a song like Impossible Germany.

This is something Mr. Spencer is great at, and I have respect for you as a player, although I don't see the conection between Ayn Rand and Ann Coulter. Ann Coulter is a republican whore.

I am still kicking myself in the ass for not buying your blue tele you sold recently. That was a beautiful guitar.

Mark Spencer · Post by **Mark Spencer** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:34 pm

anadyne2112 · Post by **anadyne2112** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:42 pm

Monday, from Being There is the last song on the video I saw.

I've heard, from DC and other Wilco heads that Being There is one of the better Wilco albums.

I don't know, but Monday is a damn good song. Simple, but good.

anadyne2112 · Post by **anadyne2112** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:12 pm

This is playing on Comcast on demand for free. I don't know if they have different lineups in different markets.
But, at any rate, I thought I would listen with an open mind. My thoughts:

Jeff seems to shoot from the hip as a writer. He and Jay are not in the same universe, and I wonder how they ever got along musically. They are totally different and comparisons are meaningless because they have different goals musically.

He writes good melodies. The last song on the video is really cool.

I don't see what the fuss is concerning teh Bennet. He seemed to portray himself as a mad scientist who secretly ran the band, but I saw nothing in his abilities that a guitarist in a garage band couldn't do better. Maybe there are examples I am unaware of that show something different. I'm not saying he should tap and play phrygian dominate or anything, but Boquist, Frame, or Farrar even are better players based on what I saw. I would've kicked him out too.

Jeff seems like a nice guy who is doing his thing, and that's cool. I've been pretty hard on Jeff in the past. My brother gave me Sky Blue Sky, and I thought it was pretty good. What the video showed from Yankee foxtrot seemed pretty good. After I log out, I'll see if it's on itunes.

So, for Doug, who's thread I ruined with my dumbass statements, I say once you take Jay out of the picture, and just listen to Jeff on his own terms, it's not that bad. Some of it is really good. I'm trying not to offend anyone on either side, and as time goes on, I wonder if taking sides are productive for either artist.

So for a diehard Jay fan, That is movement.

Jay Farrar

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