Citing no less an authoritative source than the liner notes for UT Anthology:
Unfortunately, it was also a band that was coming apart. Buck had inklings of that, too. "I had stocked beer since they don't sell liquor on Sunday in Athens, but since the last time I had seen them both Jay and Jeff quit drinking", says Buck, "they also seemed like they had stopped communicating."
Can one then deduce that teetotalling was indeed the ultimate cause of the band's untimely demise?
Anyone know why Son Volt split?
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The Boquist Brothers
i don't know if Mike ever saw Captain Randall's post, but it's upset a few people on Postcard apparently:
In a message dated 9/8/2003 1:01:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
johnrogerson700@yahoo.com wrote:
> <<<Anybody seen the message board on the Farrar site? I got some keen
> insights into the breakup of Son Volt. Take this nugget from "Captain Randall:"
>
> I HAVE A THEORY ... MIKE HEIDORN IS A PRICK. IT IS PROBABLY ABOUT MONEY
> BECAUSE MIKE DRIVES A LITTLE RED CHEVY GEO METRO. I SWEAR TO GOD. HIS PLATES ARE
> XXXXXXX. HE LIVED IN AN ILLINOIS TOWN CALLED SWANSEA AND LIVED IN AN
> APARTMENT THAT COST 300 DOLLARS A MONTH. HES A FAGGOT>>>
>
> John, I fought myself about responding to this message...but it would be
> wrong to not go on record. Some of us know the truths and will never need to
> rely on misguided, ill-informed, and defamatory accusations to express our
> thoughts about others, pro or con. You bet, free speech rules. Yet, blind speech
> as this bruises its eyes in ugly ways. What purpose is served?
>
> I'm compelled to comment -- line by line -- to your copied message from the
Farrar website. First, I wonder where are your words? Keen insight? A
nugget? I understand your intent was to share a perspective that might be
interesting to UT/Son Volt/Wilco fans. Unwittingly, you have crossed a line by
choosing to quote someone who has slandered a friend of many.
For the record:
1) Re: I HAVE A THEORY
I read the paragraph numerous times and found not the crumb of a theory.
2) Re: MIKE HEIDORN IS A PRICK
Anyone who knows Mike knows he's the most selfless, caring, and sharing
friend you could have. He was that way throughout the Primitives, UT, and Son Volt
days. He's that way to this day!
3) Re: IT IS PROBABLY ABOUT MONEY BECAUSE MIKE DRIVES A LITTLE RED CHEVY GEO
METRO.
You must know this...Mike has driven this inexpensive car for years so that
he could single-handedly raise his teen-aged son and daughter through high
school and on to college. And he's done a brilliant job, sacrificing along the
way...often working several jobs. They're great young people, thanks to Mike.
(And, if you have an inside history, you'll know Mike quit UT because touring
kept him away from his children.)
4) I SWEAR TO GOD. HIS PLATES ARE XXXXXXX.
I'm confused, here, about what God might care about whether Mike drives a Geo
or a Humvee...nor what color it is, nor what the tags read. Another thought:
What purpose is served with sharing his plate numbers to the planet? Simply
that you've actually seen his car? Did you notice the bumper stickers that
read, "My kids are honor students?"
5) HE LIVED IN AN ILLINOIS TOWN CALLED SWANSEA AND LIVED IN AN APARTMENT THAT
COST 300 DOLLARS A MONTH.
Mike chose to live in you "average" apartment so he could buy food and
clothes for his son and daughter. So he could keep the bread-box sized Geo running.
So that he could deal with not only the day-to-day we all deal with, but
also with personal matters. I've been to the apartment several times. Yet, it
is inaccurate that the rent is what was put forth. As if that matters.
6) HES A FAGGOT
I understand that message boards are little different from overhearing
someone in the restroom remark about someone else. To be sure, the validity is to
be taken at measure. If this is popular vernacular for someone you're only
intending to trash -- someone you have an issue with -- I've got to believe
there's a classier way. (Especially, if you're simply copying and pasting an
anonymous source from a message board.) In certain jurisdictions, I understand
this might be construed as borderline hate crime. (Yet, I doubt, seriously, that
was the intent.) Still, it's more important, I think, that these restated
"truths" do no harm, especially where none is do.
My family and I have known Mike for two decades. We care for him, we respect
him, and we're very proud of what he's accomplished...mostly in the
nurturance of his children -- against great odds -- but also in his special
contributions to music.
Sling names, diss who you will. But know this, there are many good people
who will stand in Mike Heidorn's corner. Today...and for many tomorrows.
Regards--
ST
I don't think anyone else has taken this too seriously...ourselves included, right?
So, about the Boquists, Dave is a bartender, has a son who he likes to spend time with and sometimes has played with my friends in National High Horse.
Jim is the siding guy and plays with Kraig Johnson & The Program and is one of the best side-men in town. He probably plays with others too, but I'm not sure.
Jim and Dave recently played together at the 7th Street Entry for the Alejandro Escovedo Benefit and they were awesome!
In a message dated 9/8/2003 1:01:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
johnrogerson700@yahoo.com wrote:
> <<<Anybody seen the message board on the Farrar site? I got some keen
> insights into the breakup of Son Volt. Take this nugget from "Captain Randall:"
>
> I HAVE A THEORY ... MIKE HEIDORN IS A PRICK. IT IS PROBABLY ABOUT MONEY
> BECAUSE MIKE DRIVES A LITTLE RED CHEVY GEO METRO. I SWEAR TO GOD. HIS PLATES ARE
> XXXXXXX. HE LIVED IN AN ILLINOIS TOWN CALLED SWANSEA AND LIVED IN AN
> APARTMENT THAT COST 300 DOLLARS A MONTH. HES A FAGGOT>>>
>
> John, I fought myself about responding to this message...but it would be
> wrong to not go on record. Some of us know the truths and will never need to
> rely on misguided, ill-informed, and defamatory accusations to express our
> thoughts about others, pro or con. You bet, free speech rules. Yet, blind speech
> as this bruises its eyes in ugly ways. What purpose is served?
>
> I'm compelled to comment -- line by line -- to your copied message from the
Farrar website. First, I wonder where are your words? Keen insight? A
nugget? I understand your intent was to share a perspective that might be
interesting to UT/Son Volt/Wilco fans. Unwittingly, you have crossed a line by
choosing to quote someone who has slandered a friend of many.
For the record:
1) Re: I HAVE A THEORY
I read the paragraph numerous times and found not the crumb of a theory.
2) Re: MIKE HEIDORN IS A PRICK
Anyone who knows Mike knows he's the most selfless, caring, and sharing
friend you could have. He was that way throughout the Primitives, UT, and Son Volt
days. He's that way to this day!
3) Re: IT IS PROBABLY ABOUT MONEY BECAUSE MIKE DRIVES A LITTLE RED CHEVY GEO
METRO.
You must know this...Mike has driven this inexpensive car for years so that
he could single-handedly raise his teen-aged son and daughter through high
school and on to college. And he's done a brilliant job, sacrificing along the
way...often working several jobs. They're great young people, thanks to Mike.
(And, if you have an inside history, you'll know Mike quit UT because touring
kept him away from his children.)
4) I SWEAR TO GOD. HIS PLATES ARE XXXXXXX.
I'm confused, here, about what God might care about whether Mike drives a Geo
or a Humvee...nor what color it is, nor what the tags read. Another thought:
What purpose is served with sharing his plate numbers to the planet? Simply
that you've actually seen his car? Did you notice the bumper stickers that
read, "My kids are honor students?"
5) HE LIVED IN AN ILLINOIS TOWN CALLED SWANSEA AND LIVED IN AN APARTMENT THAT
COST 300 DOLLARS A MONTH.
Mike chose to live in you "average" apartment so he could buy food and
clothes for his son and daughter. So he could keep the bread-box sized Geo running.
So that he could deal with not only the day-to-day we all deal with, but
also with personal matters. I've been to the apartment several times. Yet, it
is inaccurate that the rent is what was put forth. As if that matters.
6) HES A FAGGOT
I understand that message boards are little different from overhearing
someone in the restroom remark about someone else. To be sure, the validity is to
be taken at measure. If this is popular vernacular for someone you're only
intending to trash -- someone you have an issue with -- I've got to believe
there's a classier way. (Especially, if you're simply copying and pasting an
anonymous source from a message board.) In certain jurisdictions, I understand
this might be construed as borderline hate crime. (Yet, I doubt, seriously, that
was the intent.) Still, it's more important, I think, that these restated
"truths" do no harm, especially where none is do.
My family and I have known Mike for two decades. We care for him, we respect
him, and we're very proud of what he's accomplished...mostly in the
nurturance of his children -- against great odds -- but also in his special
contributions to music.
Sling names, diss who you will. But know this, there are many good people
who will stand in Mike Heidorn's corner. Today...and for many tomorrows.
Regards--
ST
I don't think anyone else has taken this too seriously...ourselves included, right?
So, about the Boquists, Dave is a bartender, has a son who he likes to spend time with and sometimes has played with my friends in National High Horse.
Jim is the siding guy and plays with Kraig Johnson & The Program and is one of the best side-men in town. He probably plays with others too, but I'm not sure.
Jim and Dave recently played together at the 7th Street Entry for the Alejandro Escovedo Benefit and they were awesome!
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Getting back to the original point
SV actually split due to the band reading the old SV board over at WB. Apparently, the SV camp was split between siding with Half or Momo over Momo's relenteless haranguing about Half's prison past. Further ructions occurred when the Boquist's felt bad for Seven after Half disappeared for some time with a carpenter with rough hands. Jay, of course, totally saw Half's POV on the matter and we await the resultant concept album he wrote about it with interest. All except Chicken Truck who will, no doubt, hate it.
Just a rumour I heard, so it is.
Just a rumour I heard, so it is.
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i hope you've all learned a lesson here
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I say kiss the grotto ass and hope for the best .
Let the man do what he does best , make records .
Why poke fun at Mike and attempt to make your balls any small than they may be ? You freakin Nazi music fan . Let Jay express what he wants , what next ? You want Jay to cover Jesus etc. ? Over zealous fanatic .
Let the man do what he does best , make records .
Why poke fun at Mike and attempt to make your balls any small than they may be ? You freakin Nazi music fan . Let Jay express what he wants , what next ? You want Jay to cover Jesus etc. ? Over zealous fanatic .
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Rock 'n' fuckin' ROLL!
Yeah! Son Volt with Mark Spencer would kick ASS!Grotto Slack wrote:Add Spencer to the SV line up. 3 guitar players would scream.
Dave Boquist could crank out on his electric 12-string with Mark throwin' down some burnin' slide leads over the roar. I can already smell the tubes gettin' hot. With a sound like that, they'd just need to hook up with some lasers and dry ice and shit and they'd be the total wailing, brain-melting, pulverizing drums-and-feedback-onslaught rock 'n' roll fuckin' SHOW! Oh man, I'm there.