Ryan Adams Cardinals III/IV

calexico · Post by **calexico** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:45 am

I've seen him live a few times too. Solo and with a band. Most were great, some were poor and one was outstanding. So that's a pretty ok strike rate.

This fascination he has for crappy metal is annoying though. 29, Easy Tiger and Cardinology were very poor I thought.

dcarter · Post by **dcarter** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:14 pm

calexico wrote:I thought he was retiring from music for a while anyway. I used to have such high hope for him but with every release he becomes less and less interesting and important to me. That's a pity.

I disagree. There were certainly some subpar releases but most were outstanding. Also, the 3 times I saw The Cardinals, each time they made a case for best band out there. 2-0 soon becomes 2-3.

JWB56 · Post by **JWB56** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:22 pm

I think he took a step back for about a year and a half. I've gotta good feeling about this.... I hope he starts playing live again.

calexico · Post by **calexico** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:29 pm

I thought he was retiring from music for a while anyway. I used to have such high hope for him but with every release he becomes less and less interesting and important to me. That's a pity.

dcarter · Post by **dcarter** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:51 am

JWB56 wrote:I wonder why Easy Tiger was released as a Ryan Adams album and not with the Cardinals, since the band played on the CD?

If memory serves, it was the record company's decision. I pre-ordered III/IV and am looking forward to it.

JWB56 · Post by **JWB56** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:16 am

I wonder why Easy Tiger was released as a Ryan Adams album and not with the Cardinals, since the band played on the CD?

ct · Post by ct » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:14 am

Keeping up with Ryan Adams is having a part-time job.

second sun · Post by **second sun** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:44 am

....and from Amazon.com:

In 2007 Ryan Adams and the Cardinals entered Electric Lady recording
studios on 8th street in NYC and went in for a session intended to
last two weeks. Six months and over 60 tracks later, they emerged
with the album Easy Tiger. But it was only a glimpse into the depth of
the work the band had undertaken and the vast amount of material
that was recorded.
As the sessions wound around into the deep winter months a
double album emerged, a rock record that felt more like a hybrid of
all the records that the band had mutually consumed as kids...
from influences as wide as KISS and The Cars.
Originally hidden away in the vault while the band hit the road to
support Easy Tiger, and now for the first time here in its entirety is
the Cardinals second double-album concept rock opera about the
80's, ninjas, cigarettes, sex, and pizza.
Enjoy volume III/IV, by Ryan Adams and The Cardinals, from the
turning point in the classic line up of the band featuring....
Catherine Popper on bass (her last with the band), Neal Casal
on guitar and vocals (his first with the band) Brad Pemberton on
the drums, Jon Graboff on the Steel Guitar (as well as a few
other things) and Jamie The Candyman Candiloro on piano and
synths, here producing again as well.

second sun · Post by **second sun** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:42 am

The below is from the downloads section of the RA website:

These downloads are some tracks recorded on the set-up day of the III/IV / Easy Tiger sessions. The band is caught here going though some riffs and just outright jamming with some room mic's on.

A few of these became songs on III/IV and there is even a riff that was once a song called "Closure" that blew and eventually became "You Make Me Feel (Like a Natural Ghost)" which is a worldwide smash for Ryan Adams & The Cardinals, and is the theme song for the Sub-National Natural Grass Level Football Association, the world renowned English Football team that lives in a cloud pattern in the sky in Ryan's "day-time mind". There is a tree growing through it.

To the best of anyones memory, the personnel on these jam sessions is Ryan & Neal on guitar, Brad on drums, and Jon "The Slyder" Graboff on bass (yes, he even kick ass on bass!)...

Enjoy this snapshot of the first day of III/IV.

JWB56 · Post by **JWB56** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:08 am

Well, Follow The Lights, an EP came out and then Cardinology. So if this new release is III/IV then I guess Cardinology is either number five or six.

Lord Filthy Von Blumpkin · Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:50 am

JWB56 wrote:Cold Roses was the first release for RA & The Cardinals and Jacksonville City Nights the second. Both were released in 2005 along with 29 which was credited as a Ryan Adams album.

Where does Cardinology fit into this new math

JWB56 · Post by **JWB56** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:52 pm

Cold Roses was the first release for RA & The Cardinals and Jacksonville City Nights the second. Both were released in 2005 along with 29 which was credited as a Ryan Adams album.

Lord Filthy Von Blumpkin · Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:50 pm

So which albums are considered "I & II"?

Is Cold Roses considered I $ II, as someone upthread suggests?

Is Cardinology either I or II?

I'm a very casual fan, so apparently missed something.

manshank · Post by **manshank** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:35 am

thats a good start

gdavis5446 · Post by **gdavis5446** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:36 am

From what I understand it was recorded in 2006, shortly after Cold Roses(I/II?).