WILCO

[Lew]

Another example of Wilco's fans being as big of douchebags as the actual band.

[dcarter]

[criminals]

[Lew]

[derekf]

I try to avoid these threads as best as I can, it's a retarded argument and I am made all the dumber for joining in, and while I'm not a huge Wilco fan, I've seen them a couple of times and have everything except Kicking Television, A Ghost is Born and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, but this made me happy when I read it yesterday in the paper even though it has nothing to do with WilcoYankee's inane post

http://blog.al.com/just-coasting/2009/04/mobile_makes_cut_on_new_wilco.html

Goddamn, that's a long run-on sentence.

[dcarter]

[stratoman]

Tweedy's left nut:



Tweedy's right nut:



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[stratoman]

There is no way the Farrar could write something like "I am Trying to Break Your Heart." And there is no way Tweedy could write something like "Windfall."

If you don't like, then that's your bag.
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[ShuckOwens]

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[countryfeedback]

Like the ad for EPSN Radio's Mike and MIke says:
'What makes them different, makes them great"
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[veryoldstereo]

Well, Uncle Tupelo and Dinosaur Jr were two great influencial bands (in my eyes) with the same problem: one member with natural raw talent (J Mascis & Jay Farrar) and a struggling (and sometimes whiny) sidekick (Lou Barlow and Jeff Tweedy) who became more than just a side player in the band and acheive success and musical independence on their own.

When both bands began, Mascis and Farrar were the key players in the band and the sole driving force behind the music. As the bands progressed, the talent of the side players increased and tensions arose. Uncle Tupelo played the part more admirably than Dinosaur Jr. by finishing their last tour and making 4 great records while Dinosaur Jr really started forming into the J Mascis Experience after the original line up disbanded.

On Lou Barlow's website, in an interview by IFC, Lou talks about how J hated him when they were growing up. Sebadoh's "Freed Pig" is a direct attack on J.

In Gregory Knot's book about Wilco, Learning How to Die, Farrar is portrayed equally as an egatistical jerk who, at the end of Uncle Tupelo, refused to sing back up on Tweedy's songs and ended Uncle Tupelo with a nod.

Personally, both Farrar and Mascis have remained true to their original band's sound while Tweedy and Barlow have progressed into a new sound. I respect have have paid thousands on both bands with CDs, concerts, T-Shirts, and bootlegs and will always continue to do so. However, personally, I prefer the original sound.

Many bands have had collsions with having too much talent in the band (Lennon-McCartney) and other bands have had a single genius who went off the deep end (Brian Wilson) and did not have anyone to counter-balance him.

In 2005, Dinosaur Jr's original line-up reassembled, toured, and released a new album with another one in the works. Lou and Murph are into it, while Mascis is going throught the motions. I recently had the opportunity to meet Lou and Murph outside the venue they were performing waiting in line for dinner. J was no where to be seen. During the show, Lou joked with the crowd and jammed with Murph obviously they were into it. J looked bored and said nothing throughout the show.

Will Uncle Tupelo get together when they run out of money? I think so!
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[Lawrence Fan]

[Tokyo Fan]

[veryoldstereo]

[dcarter]

The grifter and I talked about this subject after the amazing Knoxville wilco show last Saturday. It seemed to us that as, jspill was saying, the 2 bands are too different as to be compared. Contrasted, yes. Compared, no. We also decided that most Tweedy/Farrar people fit into one of 3 categories. 1) People that basically prefer, for lack of a better term, alt-country, to all other genres. These folks tend to love all things Jay and rightly so. They tend to not like Tweedy post Being There, if at all. It just isn't their type of music. They are most likely to get irate when Wilco/Tweedy are beatified because they see Jay as a critically and popularly disrespected genius. Again, rightly so from that perspective.
2) Folks that basically were exposed to Wilco post-Being There, mostly post-Summerteeth. These folks prefer, for lack of a better term, indie or college rock, to all other genres. They tend to see Wilco as 'important' and innovative and rightly so from their perspective. They tend to see Son Volt as making the same album over and over. Therefore they see Wilco as superior and think that it is laughable to prefer the Volt.
And 3) People that don't have a genre that they hold above all others. They may have been exposed to Jay/Jeff at any point along the discography. They recognized the genius in both of them and explored back catalogues and/or follow(ed) their respective careers. These folks see them both as equally important to music. They dig them both.

In short, it comes down to musical tastes. Everyone has a valid opinion in context. No matter which of the 3 groups you fall into, let's all agree to GIVE IT A REST ALREADY!!
Thank you.
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